If first spell fails, will second succeed?

[Jumbie]

Let's take two examples:

Suppose I have a governor and a baroness in a neutral town (KD) both ordered to usurp control (in case the other fails) and both ordered to move to to another town (PE) so that if one succeeds the other can be put to use doing something else.

Let's say the governor first succeeds in usurping the town at KD, will the baroness ignore the usurp KD order and use the travel order to go to PE instead?

Similarly, let's say I have a wizard who is in the 1WI group and the group is ordered to move to a WI town at DL where I know a dirty EL emissary is located.

I set order 799 for the wizard to research magic when the group gets there, but I suspect the dirty elf will usurp the town before that, so I also order the wizard to do something else useful in case he can't research, e.g. I set him to heal the group...

If the town is no longer mine when the 799 order pops up in the queue, will the wizard ignore the 799 order and use the heal order instead?

[kevindusi]

I started to write and answer to this and realized I have never tried it. I'm curious as well!

[Lucky Tiger]

That sounds interesting. I haven't heard of someone trying to use the orders like that. I guess I always assumed one order per, no matter if it would be successful or not. I though if someone gave an order that became impossible that was it they would try, fail and be done with it other orders would be ignored.

I look forward to more on this.

[Lord Diamond]

Just my opinions:

The 2nd noble will attempt o usurp control, the gold will be paid, and he will not relocate.

The wizard will cast Heal, as he was not able to cast 799.

I am curious if I am correct. Please let us know.

[Jumbie]

From the description of the 330 order:

"If the population center is already under the control of the ordering king, this order is ignored."

However, 'ignored' could still mean that the noble's order for the turn is used up similar to if a wizard casts a raven familiar spell and it fails because of the distance.

[Kalrex]

If multiple orders are issued for a noble/wizard the lowest # order occurs. The second order will not fire- If the lower order fizzles cause it's redundant it still counts as an order.

This is what I have seen from my play-

[Jumbie]

Still awaiting a definitive answer...

[Jumbie]

:bump:

[kevindusi]

Sounds like you need to give it a shot and let us know, Jumbie!

[DuPont]

From making mistakes on order submissions, I can tell you that the 2nd noble will not relocate - even though his lower-numbered order would fail as not being necessary, it would count as his action for the turn.