5635 Steel

[gkmetty]

GI -> AM, sorry Windstar, it is not an alliance. We are not coordinating our attacks. I am merely offering to attack the AM in exchange for favorable terms, and in fact I don't intend on pursuing you once you leave Zanthia. If the DW also attack's you then I guess you should not have upset two kingdoms at the same time. You can still save the situation by agreeing to the GI terms.

By the way, your numbers superiority in 3GI versus 1AM battle gives you an advantage in damage output, I was not bluffing on that, but I believe the GI superior defense makes up for that and more. I have not come close to figuring the calculation for defense so it would be an interesting battle. I also was not kidding about the 1GI. It has equal numbers of brigades to your 1AM with better leaders and more artifacts. You should avoid the 1GI unless you have a secret surprise.

[Windstar2]

GI - AM, The Giant kingdom is not withdrawing seeing that we can take control of the region this turn while the Amazons have not been able to take the region in multiple turns. The Giants have been planning this invasion for multiple moons. The fact that the Amazons kingdom arrived a little early is of no consequence. The Giants will make this offer. We will leave the populations in row L and higher to the Amazons, 2 villages and 2 towns. Everything below that will belong to the Giants. If the Amazon warriors cannot defeat the Dwarves at their capital, then the Giant Warriors will take that populations and trade for the populations at NF, but NF must fall to the Giants this turn to take the region. The Giants will turn the populations at NF neutral once the Dwarves capital falls. What do the Amazons say?

This I can do. You can take JE, and I will keep NF. I will also take the additonal 2 villages and one town at or above L. Thanks for the sharing.

[gkmetty]

GI->AM it looks like we may have lost the DW. I will take the village at PL, the village at LD, and the village at OD. I will also take the city. That leaves you with all 3 towns and 2 villages. If what I take gives me the region I will give up a village. You can have the region.

[Zar@shand]

GI->AM it looks like we may have lost the DW. I will take the village at PL, the village at LD, and the village at OD. I will also take the city. That leaves you with all 3 towns and 2 villages. If what I take gives me the region I will give up a village. You can have the region.

I will still be around for a few more turns at least, just been busy. But not surprisingly I won't last very long, getting double teamed is never going to be easy and I've made some silly mistakes like casting all my spells against my own group and not realising you have to specify the enemy group. Also changing my priorities on what needs to be done when will help. I'll learn from this one and hopefully the next will be better.

[Zar@shand]

GI -> DW, I know it has been rude for Amazon Ladies and Giants to talk like you are not in the room. Amazon ladies want to operate on their own terms. Giants have own terms, not the same.

Giants don't know how the battle at your capital went, only know capital is still yours and first Amazon group moved away. Third Giant group and first Amazon group face off and are closely matched with damage output but Giants have much better defense and equipped armor. First Giant group also in region and is much better than first Amazon ladies.

Giants will help Dwarves for same deal. Giants get city and two villages, Dwarves sell Giants shiny sword for 25,000 gold. Dwarves keep region and Giants help defeat Amazons.

Seeing that this deal involves taking my current my pop centers, surprisingly it is not something that I would agree to. Better to go down fighting, it's the Dwarven way.

[Zar@shand]

GI -> DW, I know it has been rude for Amazon Ladies and Giants to talk like you are not in the room. Amazon ladies want to operate on their own terms. Giants have own terms, not the same.

Giants don't know how the battle at your capital went, only know capital is still yours and first Amazon group moved away. Third Giant group and first Amazon group face off and are closely matched with damage output but Giants have much better defense and equipped armor.  First Giant group also in region and is much better than first Amazon ladies.

Giants will help Dwarves for same deal. Giants get city and two villages, Dwarves sell Giants shiny sword for 25,000 gold. Dwarves keep region and Giants help defeat Amazons.

AM-->GI/DW

What you are proposing is in fact an alliance. Dividing up a region between two powers is fine, but what you are proposing is to actively help another kingdom against another kingdom in battle. In good faith, I cannot condone this action.

I'm new around here and to be honest I'm not 100% sure on the rules regarding what is and isn't allowed. Going by what I see in this thread you can agree not to attack each other, divide up pop centers of another nation between two or more nations and trade between nations and that is about it. So long as it is all put in the game thread. I am also assuming that this is the case for new games unless otherwise specified. Please correct me if I am wrong as I am signed up for a new game.

[gkmetty]

GI - DW, I'm glad to hear you will stick around until it is no longer reasonable. I have only analyzed your pop centers in the southern part of your region and what I witnessed is that you improved economic production very well but you may have neglected Defense. I think most kingdoms will focus production in one or two PCs while also improving the defense at those PCs. 100k defense at this stage of the game is reasonable but the GI is built to attack PCs so 100k is just not enough. Your focus on economic development made your region a target. In my eyes you had a successful first game and you learned how the game works, that may be even more important.

[RELLGAR]

GI -> DW, I know it has been rude for Amazon Ladies and Giants to talk like you are not in the room. Amazon ladies want to operate on their own terms. Giants have own terms, not the same.

Giants don't know how the battle at your capital went, only know capital is still yours and first Amazon group moved away. Third Giant group and first Amazon group face off and are closely matched with damage output but Giants have much better defense and equipped armor.  First Giant group also in region and is much better than first Amazon ladies.

Giants will help Dwarves for same deal. Giants get city and two villages, Dwarves sell Giants shiny sword for 25,000 gold. Dwarves keep region and Giants help defeat Amazons.

AM-->GI/DW

What you are proposing is in fact an alliance. Dividing up a region between two powers is fine, but what you are proposing is to actively help another kingdom against another kingdom in battle. In good faith, I cannot condone this action.

I'm new around here and to be honest I'm not 100% sure on the rules regarding what is and isn't allowed. Going by what I see in this thread you can agree not to attack each other, divide up pop centers of another nation between two or more nations and trade between nations and that is about it. So long as it is all put in the game thread. I am also assuming that this is the case for new games unless otherwise specified. Please correct me if I am wrong as I am signed up for a new game.

Im no longer playing. If you would like to message me for advice and answers to your questions without everyone knowing what they are, message me and I'll be happy to help.

[Windstar2]

AM-->All

I will sell 900 mithril for 1 gold to the kingdom that gives me the location of the IL capital.

[gkmetty]

GI -> all, looking to buy 70k food for 35k gold